Paul Fisher of ‘Remodeled’ Interviewed

Paul Fisher has created more stars than any other agent in the history of the modeling industry & built one of the most powerful modeling agencies in the world. Naomi CampbellCarole Alt, Carrie OtisStephanie Seymour,Brooke BurkeNicky Hilton, Eva Horizigova and hundreds of other famous names. Over the past quarter-century, Fisher’s world-renowned clients have graced thousands of magazine covers, headlined shows for every major fashion house in the world, been nominated for an Academy Award and currently serve as the First Lady of a European country.



Donna: 

Hi we have Paul Fisher here from the hit show ‘Remodeled’, it’s a CW show – why don’t you tell us more about your show?

 

Paul:

Thank you very much Donna, our show on the CW is called ‘Remodeled’ and its kind of a cool show – many people  call it a reality show but we call it a docuseries.  The one rule that I have with the CW was ‘Don’t tell me what to do’ – they were only allowed to follow me around with a camera and capture what my company regularly does.  I am a CEO of a company called ‘The Network’ and it is a company that manages modeling agencies around the world.

And our show is very real and raw.  I go into agencies that are struggling, that are hurting – I give them some very strong ‘tough love’.  But by the time the show is done I make them look and act like a top New York modeling agency.  Lets say they have 500 models, when I’m done with them they have two left.  I gut the agency.  I get rid of everybody – I actually often fire the entire staff – and I take one kid…and I make them famous.  I can take her and in two weeks have her walking down the runways for the biggest designers in the world.  She’s working forElle…and a top modeling star.

Donna:

You have created some really huge names in the modeling industry…

Well I’ve been blessed to have been a personal agent over the last 25 years to people like Naomi Campbell, Stephanie Seymour, Carrie Otis, Carla Bruni, Eva Herzigova,  Brooke Burke …so many amazing.  I feel blessed the Universe brought me these incredible kids- people always thought I made them famous but I disagree – its in the kids DNA.  My job creates an environment s that’s possible – but then I get out of the way and allow that star to shine.

Donna:

How do you ‘feel out’ a star?

Paul:

That’s a great question – it’s not an exact science.  My job is to try to figure out what other people think is beautiful – what does Calvin Klein think is beautiful? What does Donna Versace?  The people at Prada, Gucci…what’s Paul Marciano think is perfect for Guess.  I have to get inside their heads and find out what they want.  Its not about what turns me on – it matters what these powerful people think.

Donna:

What about really thin models?  I know in the 80’s when I was doing my thing – stick thing was in.

But now there does seem to be a love for curves.

Paul:

There’s one term that really pisses me of… ‘plus-size model’.  Our models are 15, 16 years old – 5 foot 11, 118 pounds – we’re 23% under the normal weight for a normal woman.  That’s why there are eating disorders and depression issues.  

Kids  look in the magazines and see images like that and go home and stick their fingers down their throat – it’s a huge issue.  Plus size models should be called normal models.

We’re putting up the wrong messages to the youth of today – I support the business – but in creating the Network I also try to maintain social responsibility for the images we are putting out to the world.  I believe the kind of images we are putting out there are completely wrong and I think we’re too concerned with the bottom line and how much bread we’re making rather than the impact we’re having on the youth of today.

Donna:

I look at models like Cindy Crawford in her day and she actually had a nice muscular curvy figure – and Naomi Campbell did too.

Paul:

One of my missions in life is ‘to bring back sexy’, to me healthy is the new skinny.  And I hope and pray that you and I are sitting front row at a Marc Jacobs show and we actually watch young women who are healthy sexy and beautiful walking down the runway.

I hate to say it but in our fashion industry now we call the models ‘hangers’.

Donna:

Oh wow

Paul:

The clothes ‘hang’ on these bones!

We don’t care how they look on the kid we just want the closes to look good and the industry has no conscious as to how this affects the rest of the world.

I want to change that.

Donna:

What about mature models?  When your 14 its easy to be tall and skinny and have boy hips! What are your thoughts?

Paul:

I think there is something wrong with our industry – it doesn’t make sense – you take a 14 or 15 year old girl and you put her in a Prada campaign.  What 14 or 15 year old can actually afford Prada?  Why not use a beautiful, sexy woman like you – someone who can actually buy Prada and Gucci.  The whole thing is backwards.

Donna:

Tell me are there any stories that you would like to share.

Paul:

You know what I would like to talk about if I may is that I got out of the modeling industry eleven years ago and I decided to open The Network because I wanted to see if I could create a safe environment for women all over the world.  I manage fifty modeling agencies around the world and 48 are owned by women, and out of a staff of 22 – all women.  The reason? If you’re a parent and your child is a model I want to be sure when you put her into our hands that you know we are going to be respectful and take care of your child.  I have drug experts and eating disorder experts, nutritionists, depression experts and things like that.  I want to create a union so kids have health benefits and pension plans and truly take care of them.

One of my kids just became the face of Guess – and the when we get news like that I don say ‘Lets go and party!’ I say to the kid ‘Who are you going to get back to this weekend?  What is a cause that you are going to donate that money to? We try to teach our kids to be role models – like Cindy Crawford who you mentioned.  A bright young woman people can look up to who can take the blessings God has given her, these physical features, a make the world a better place.

I do have stories of back in the day when I was representing girls like Stephanie Seymour who was with Axel Rose and Carrie Otis was with Mickey Rourke and Carla Bruni is married to the Prime Minister of France and my kids go on to become these incredibly powerful women and each has a very interesting story.

But you may have to read my book to find out all about it!

Donna:

Where is it?!

Paul:

I've had three books published. One that I’ve completed is called ‘Creation of Monsters’ because that’s what I thought for many years – that I create monsters. But you know what I realized? I was the biggest monster out of them all.  I was the worst role model – I did drugs, I was a mess.  I thought I was writing about the kids but I was writing about me.

Donna:

So it was cathartic.

Paul:

Yes and I’m dyslexic – I write backwards but I wanted to get it out.  People have asked me why I’ve gone back into the modeling industry after 10 years – well I went back to beg for forgiveness.  To beg the industry, the world, the Universe for forgiveness for the screwed up things I did – the disrespectful way I treated young women.

So one reason is to beg for forgiveness.  And two is to clean the damn thing up.

That’s what my show is all about, me being very passionate and intense and trying very very hard to empower agencies in small markets to become powerful so we together as a team of agencies around the world can have a true effect on the modeling industry.

Donna:

Tell me about your other books.

Paul:

After Creating Monsters my next book was called ‘Forbidden Fruit’ .  Its really everything you’ve ever wanted to know about the modeling industry – how does Paris work, London work, Milan work?  Its trying to tell kids and parents don’t get involved in the modeling industry.  Its one of the hardest things you can imagine.  You probably experienced this when you were a model.  The hardest things is not the sex, the drugs… there’s one thing … you have 12,000 castings a year and 11,999 someone is going to tell you that you are not good looking.  Now look in the mirror and tell me what you see.

Donna:

It’s the rejection factor.

Paul:

They are not rejecting you about your political beliefs, about your religious beliefs… they are rejecting you about your upper lip or the bridge of your nose…its those kind of things – how does a young kid living under the microscope and having herself judged that many times a day – they look in a mirror and tell themselves they are not beautiful.  

Donna:

Unfortunately our society is really caught up in looks and the way you present yourself – I think if we were all blind and had no opinion that would be great – but they continue to use these young thin models,  I think its great what you are doing.

Paul:

Its an interesting point.  Is it really what we find attractive?  Or are we being told what to be attracted to.

Donna: 

I look at people like the Kardashians – they’ve got big butts, they’re beautiful girls – if those girls were models on the cover of something then that’s what we perceive as beautiful.  I think there are many kinds of beautiful people.  Different cultures, different races …

Paul:

This is a great conversation – if you were going to Africa what would you think is beautiful.  Your palate what you eat what you think is beautiful is what is programmed into your brain.  In another country 118 pound girl is considered ugly and emaciated.

Who decides who is beautiful and who it not.  I think society is being brainwashed by the industry.   To me its time to get rid of that shit, get rid of that programming – and to understand true beauty figure it out for your self.

Donna

I agree, you see something enough, you hear it, you say it you see it…and then you believe it.  

Donna Spangler & Paul Fisher

 

Paul:

This one thing I preach to my kids – if they don't understand that their physical appearance is a blessing from God then that will be the one thing that haunts them for the rest of their life. They will continue to look in the mirror and think they are unattractive.   If they don’t accept they have a blessing and treat it as a blessing then it will mess them up.

I don’t think anyone should become a model – but if there was one reason to become one it would be because they can kill it – they can become super famous and become an amazing role model and give back to the world.

Donna:

Then again if someone wants to try it should be encouraged.

Paul:

They should be encouraged to try if they are wanting to do it for the right reason.  There is a great book that came out called The Secret.

Donna:

Oh yes! I love The Secret! I completely agree with that concept and philosophy.

Paul:

Here’s where I’m going to disagree with you!   If you can visualize something, believe in it enough then the Universe will bring it to you.  I used to sleep with my girls Polaroids taped to my forehead – because I believed if I could see them on the cover of magazines then it would happen.

But here’s the one part that’s missing – one big huge part – if you want those things for selfish reasons I believe you will get them and then the world will take them away from you.  But if you want them because you want to share them with the world and contribute to the world then you will have them forever.  That’s the missing chapter from The Secret – the last one ‘Intentions’.

Donna:

Wanting it for the right reasons is good.  For the challenge, for the knowledge, I hate to say this but I was a different person in my teens and twenties than I am now.  My intentions and wants have evolved.  They are too young to know what they want – if they can get to the place where that they are altruistic and wanting to give back that’s great – but I see it as a time where you are focused on a goal and your doing it and you're not thinking about giving back and hopefully when you get successful then you can give back.

Paul:

Its too late, too late.  I've been doing this 30 threes booked over 300 covers, $150 million of business – I've booked the biggest campaigns in the world…

Donna:

I think girls are too young to think that way – Im not sure if most 14 and 15 year olds are that evolved to even grasp that.  That comes with age and life experience.

Its good to teach it and their parents should teach it – but I believe at that age I don’t think its possible to say ‘I want to give back’.

Paul:

I say with all the humility in my heart that I don’t believe you are giving the kids enough credit – I believe these 14 and 15 year olds souls are 1000 years old I believe they come back in physical form and their soul understands very perfectly on this thing called ‘Universal Law’ – you cant see it like you cant see gravity or electricity but it is all around us.  I am not talking about some ethereal  way – Im talking about it in a very serious way.  Im not a parent yet – but all these kids…are my kids.  Its my responsibility to teach them.  If they do not give back, the world will take it away from them.

I’ve done a study on celebrities who last – Paul Newman, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt.. they all give back.  There is a reason they last 10, 15 years … its their philanthropic trip – they give back until its painful.

Its our job as older people to teach younger people this Universal Law - that if they do not give back they will lose everything and at 18 be a waitress at Starbucks.

Donna:

I think you are on the right track – if they have someone strong like you to guide them then I think they can know how to do that.

If they’re in an environment that is supportive and nurturing then I guess it’s possible to teach them.

Paul Fisher



Paul:

Its my job to teach my kids about the world – and not just the world of modeling.  My kids that do Prada, do Calvin Klein if I was to put cocaine in front of them they would do it and probably enjoy it.  If I say come and feed the homeless, go to Africa do some missionary work – they would enjoy that `1000 times more.  Its what we are putting in front of our kids – that is, quit thinking about yourself.  Share with the world, give till it hurts…and if we do that they will experience in a tangible way that they will get more back.

And that is the goal of The Network.  I’m creating role models – I don’t need to put another kid on the cover of a magazine – I’ve done that 1000 times.  I’m creating young women that the world can look up to – I am creating an army of role models.

Donna:

I like to hear that – its beautiful.

Paul:

Thank you it is the most important thing in my life other than my Faith – it to touch these young kids in a way where I can repent for my past sins and I can watch these beautiful young souls grow up and give back to the world and become very special people.

That’s my true joy in life.  Not making money but impacting these young lives and the world in a positive way.

Donna:

What about your personal life? Married? Dogs, cats …pigs, elephants?  Ha ha!

Paul:

(laughs)

I had a very beautiful girlfriend Emily and we got engaged a few years ago and we were engaged for two years.  And it was about two months before the wedding she walks in and says ‘Its over.’

I was very excited to get married, to have children – it broke my heart immensely and its been two and a half years and I haven’t been on a date since.

I don’t feel bad anymore – it’s a part of my past… its just that I am so focused on creating my business, because I have a TV show – I don’t know if women are going to like me because I have a TV show, or Im a nice guy…. So I’m just so focused on my business.  I don’t know if I would remember how to make out!!

Donna:

(laughs)

Paul:

 I’ve heard its like getting back on a bike! (laughs)  I just don’t know – my head is in such a different place – its been quite a long time.

When she left she took Shaggy and Bear my two dogs – I don’t miss her really, but I do miss Shaggy and Bear very very much.  

My personal life is about my faith which is a place called The Kabbalah Centre, that changed my life – my family, my little sister has been fighting cancer for 20 years, she is my life my inspiration – she’s getting better – she had Hodgekins disease and then recovered and then got sarcoma.  She's fighting it.  She adopted two kids from China – she is an incredible person – such an inspiration.

I don’t have a social life – my social life is making little kids famous so they can give back to the world.

Donna:

Tell me about your schedule do you work every single day?

Paul:

They call me the Vampire – the reason they call me this is because I start at 4am I end at midnight – I have agencies all over the world, Zurich, London, Panama – I have agencies all over the States – so I start very early speaking to my agencies – Im speaking to parents, to kids who may have eating disorders, nutrition issues – I’m right on those things.

I do a lot of traveling seeing if I can find little stars who I can help out and be a positive influence in their life.

The show is three months on the road and then a lot of press and getting people excited about our show.  So yes I work.  I’m kind of a workaholic.

Donna:

Why did she cancel the wedding.

Paul:

Because I worked so much and because I had this dream about taking over the modeling industry and transforming it – I would come home at night and lock myself in the guest house and work and work and she would be sleeping… we lost contact.  It was my fault – I did not give her the attention and love she so rightfully deserved.  I was not a good boyfriend – I was faithful and respectful but I wasn’t there for her.

Donna:

Where do you see yourself in the next five years.

Paul:

Wow that’s a great question… well I have my agencies and they are mostly run by women.  In five years I want to walk away for this to be a fully women run organization – so parents all over the world can feel safe  putting their kids in The Network’s hands.

Right now we are the biggest in the world – but I want to have about 150 agencies and I want to see it running like a machine, completely run by women and I want to see health benefits and pension plans for these kids and I wouldn’t mind babies.

I would like a beautiful boy… not a beautiful girl – I would lock her in the house!

I want to teach my kids my faith, I study martial arts, I want to teach my little boy how to fight.. I want to be there for my kids and teach them what I know and learn from them – about love and loving something more than myself.

I believe kids can teach me more than I can teach them.

Donna:

Oh believe me kids will turn you upside down!

Paul:

Well I want to be turned upside down – I’m looking forward to it.

My models are my kids – I would take a bullet for them – I cry when they get big campaigns.  I've got this thing inside me – I feel for my kids so much.  I’ll be sitting front row at a fashion show and see my kids walking down the runway and I will be balling my eyes out.  I care so much about them.

I think that’s what makes me a great agent – I truly care – and I want to see them realize their dreams.

Donna:

Is there any last thing you would like our readers to know?

Paul:

I believe in the next year I am going to shift the paradigm of the whole modeling industry.  To become a famous model you’ve got to be in Vogue, you have to be in Bazaar, Elle.  But there are very few pages in those magazines.  There are only 96 kids a year that actually become great models because of the amount of pages in those magazines – but social media has changed all that.

There is a kid out there named Kate Upton – she’s the girl on the cover of Sports Illustrated – she went to every single modeling agency in the world and everyone turned her down… and then she did a You Tube video – got 4 million hits, Sports Illustrated called her and put her on the cover.  Then all of a sudden she did Saturday Night Live – she’s now worth $2 million – all because of social media.

So what we are doing is aggregating all my models – all 10,000s of them – we manage their social media accounts – so in a year I am going to oversee 150 million followers – then the Democratic party and the Republican party will come to me and want me to support them because I am going to control all those kids in the 16 to 24 year old demographic and nobody has that kind of reach – when they come to me and ask me for those kids votes I will say ‘Ask me nicely.’

A big part of our push is social media and literally creating stars online – instead of only offline in magazines.  So if someone comes to me and says oh my kid just did Vogue – I will say, my kid has 250,000 followers.  

I don’t like the modeling industry I think it sucks – but I’m changing it.

We have a website www.thenetworktalent.com and only pray that your readers if they want to become models or learn anything about modeling.  If you are going to do it, and want to do it for the right reasons come and talk to me.

 

Interview by Donna Spangler

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